Ali: Hasm case uncovered terrorists' training camps in Sudan

I aired al-Baradie's leaks before Ahmed Moussa

Activists used to fight over the funds coming from abroad

Published Saturday, 18 June, 2022

Renowned writer and expert, Abdelrahim Ali, the chairman of the Board of Directors and Editor-in-Chief of Al-Bawaba News, kept exposing interest groups, agents and traitors who adopted a scheme to overthrow the Egyptian state on January 25, 2011.

During an interview with al-Nahar channel, Ali aired some leaked calls, for the first time. 

The leaked calls involved some activists and traitors, throwing light on how they were part of a conspiracy to cause chaos to take root and grow in Egypt by attacking prisons and killing police officers.

Hasm and the camps in Sudan

Ali threw light, for the first time, on a case concerning the terrorist Hasm organization. 

He referred the case to the military prosecution.

Military tribunals, he said, would finalize terrorism cases in a fast manner and with the same accuracy.

Ali praised a decision to transfer over 300 people, belonging to the terrorist Hasm organization, to the military judiciary.

He referred to the presence of terrorist training camps in Sudan that are sponsored by Qatar and Turkey.

"Terrorist training for these groups takes place in northern Sudan," Ali said.

He added leaked calls of former Atomic Energy Agency chief, Mohamed al-Baradie, which included insults to the members of the protest April 6 movement.

Ali said he broadcast these calls, even before TV host Ahmed Moussa did this.

He said he leaked these calls in his 'Black Box' TV programme. 

"These were the same leaks that I broadcast in my programme," Ali said.

He revealed that Moussa had only removed the logos of the leaks from them before broadcasting them. 

He said he refused to air leaked phone conversations between al-Baradie and former army chief of staff, Sami Anan, for fear of being brought to court.

Ali noted that the Egyptian National Security Service was dealt a strong blow after the events of January.

"It can, however, come back with force," Ali said. 

He revealed that he spoke with incumbent Egyptian President, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, about Egyptian security and its successes.

He noted that the president replied by saying: "The Ministry of the Interior and the State Security Service were subjected to severe blows, but were able to return, which is a miracle".

Ali added that President Sisi said the State Security Service was subjected to injustice and its headquarters were stormed after the events of the January Revolution.

Ali said 18 State Security officers were humiliated in the northern coastal city of Alexandria when ultraorthodox Salafists beat.

"May God not repeat such scenes," Ali prayed. 

Activists selling their country

Ali stressed that al-Baradie clearly conspired against his friends.

Not even drug dealers, Ali said, could do what al-Baradie did. 

"Those who call themselves 'activists' or 'revolutionaries', whether Ahmed Maher or others, quarrelled over money coming from abroad," Ali revealed. 

He added that activist Ahmed Maher admitted that whoever gets that money becomes a 'mercenary'. 

He referred to a Facebook conversation between activist Ahmed Maher and Bassem Fathi on May 7, 2010, where they talked about receiving funding from Freedom House.

Maher, Ali said, wrote on Facebook in conversations with a friend in May 2010 that he regretted receiving funds from abroad, and that he felt that he was "selling his country".

Vying for funding 

Ali added that all members of the April 6 coalition, after the January revolution, were competing with each other to obtain support from abroad and gain the confidence of al-Baradie who they themselves described as 'stupid'. 

Ali offered to leak a call between activists Ahmed Maher and Mohamed Adel, where they talked about funding from abroad, and their demand for funding for the April 6 movement from Serbia.

"The security services monitored the actions of these traitors," Ali said.

He added that ordinary people who went to Tahrir Square as part of the January Revolution remained in the square for 18 days, then left for their homes, and the spoils fell on the beneficiaries, whether members of April 6 or other activists.

"The security services monitored all these things," Ali said. 

He added that political activists quarrelled over the spoils.

He referred to phone conversations proving that Ahmed Maher wanted funding from abroad.

Ali presented a phone conversation between Asmaa Mahfouz and a person called 'Souka', where they talked about the funding that Ahmed Maher received from Sheikha Moza of Qatar and other people.

He mentioned another phone conversation between Ahmed Maher and a friend of his about state security papers.

Maher, Ali said, said he was afraid that his file in the State Security Service would be revealed to everyone.

"These conversations proved that Ahmed Maher was in a state of panic and terror after storming State Security headquarters," Ali said. 

Ali explained that the political activist Mustafa al-Naggar was no. 2 after al-Baradei following the January Revolution.

He said al-Naggar and al-Baradie talked about the details of the storming of State Security headquarters after the January Revolution, and about forging State Security documents.

"The devil cannot do what Mustafa al-Naggar and al-Baradie did," Ali said.

He referred to a phone conversation where al-Naggar talked about arrangements for forging security reports after storming the headquarters of the State Security Service. 

Al-Naggar, a fan of al-Baradei

Ali indicated that Mustafa Al-Naggar focused on al-Baradie.

He said al-Naggar convinced al-Baradie that he knew a woman called Marwa who would help him in his presidential campaign, in exchange for a salary of $2,000 a month.

Ali noted that in another phone conversation, al-Naggar talked to this woman who could not believe that she would take such a huge salary.

"Mustafa al-Naggar planning to control half of al-Baradie's campaign," Ali said. "This is not a country of revolutionary youths who are dividing it among themselves in a shameful manner," Ali said.